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Mar 02, 2009

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Andy

So... agriculture = sin?

Seems a little harsh to a guy who grew up on a dairy farm. It's not like picking berries and wrasslin' saber-tooth cats would be a walk in the park.

Michael W. Kruse

LOL. Agriculture was bad enough. The city thing didn't go over too big either.

John

What if the Garden of Eden never was a specific geographical location but a metaphor for The Garden of Indestructible Light within which all the trees (that is the structures of our bodies--via the spinal column) are arising.

1. http://www.dabase.org/tfrbkgil.htm

2. http://www.fearnomorezoo.org/literature/trees

Michael W. Kruse

The Garden of Eden may or may not have been a literal place but I'm unaware of anything in the historical record that would lend itself to such an interpretation. It would certainly be contrary to anything in the Jewish or Christian traditions.

Walter R. Mattfeld

Eden is generally understood to be derived from the Sumerian word edin, meaning uncultivated land, the steppe between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers. The Mesopotamian myths have the gods creating man to care for their city-gardens in edin. For over 100 years some scholars have proposed the pre-biblical site for Eden's garden is Sumerian Eridu in ancient Sumer, Lower Mesopotamia, south of Babylon. Why? It is in Eridu that a man is warned by his god "Do not eat the bread of death to be offered you or you will die" presaging Yahweh's warning to Adam and Eve. The man _obeys_ and refuses to eat the proffered food and thereby is denied immortality. Had he disobeyed and not resisted temptation he would have obtained immortality. His god at Eridu had lied to him. Why? He did not want to loose man as his servant. In Mesopotamian belief man was created to till the gods' gardens in the edin and present the produce as food to feed the gods. If man is allowed to become a god who will care for the gods' gardens and feed them? They will have to care for their gardens and feed themselves, an onerous task they did not want, hence the reason they created man, to thereby attain an eternal sabbath rest from earthly toil in the edin's gardens. These scholars understand that the Hebrews recast these motifs. My website, www.bibleorigins.net goes into greater depth on all of this from an anthropological point of view.

Michael W. Kruse

Walter, thanks for your insightful comments and the link. It is much appreciated.

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