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Michael Kruse

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will spotts said...
This is a very interesting series.

I happen to be reading The Cost of Discipleship (Bonhoeffer), and this parallels his train of thought at the beginning.

June 19, 2005 1:59 AM

Michael Kruse

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Michael W. Kruse said...
How interesting that you brought this up. Part of where I am headed with this disillusion thing is about being prophetic, both as a community and as individuals. Bonhoeffer and M. L. King are two of the people I am studying. I hadn't thought about this discussion in terms of Cost of Disipleship. What do you see as parallel?

June 19, 2005 7:40 PM

Michael Kruse

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will spotts said...
In as short a form as I can say this: the chapter "The Call to Discipleship" where he discusses the Jesus calling people and the qualifications they would put on following. For example, the man who said "I will follow you, Lord, but suffer me first to bid farewell . . ." He was setting conditions which, in effect, nullified the concept of following Christ. He apparently truly wanted to follow, but he wanted to do so on his own terms -- this seems similar to Cain's apparently strong desire to have God's approval but on his own terms. When we try to do this we usually tell ourselves we really are disciples. And there is a tendency to persist in this as a downward spiral seeking always to justify ourselves and our own plans.

June 22, 2005 6:40 AM

Michael Kruse

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Michael W. Kruse said...
Okay. I see what you mean. I have been thinking I need to go back and read Bonhoeffer's "Life Together." I think it touches on some of these issues as well and will particularly some future posts I want to make.

Alas,... so many books, so little time.

June 22, 2005 4:10 PM

Michael Kruse

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will spotts said...
You said it.

June 22, 2005 5:35 PM

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